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作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 11:15
标题: 野火3.0发布了
PTC发布了
PREPRODUCTION PRO/ENGINEER WILDFIRE 3.0
data code C000
虽然只是预发行版 正式版也快了吧
这是Ptc公司网站的下载页面 正在下载中 看看什么变化
作者: kensun    时间: 2005-5-29 11:19
友情关注一下
作者: djYang    时间: 2005-5-29 11:35
不知是不是免费提供下载的,如果是,能否提供个下载地址!
作者: langrenji    时间: 2005-5-29 12:21
升级也太快了吧............我M080的刚刚下载完.
作者: cleit    时间: 2005-5-29 12:48
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作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 13:01
djYang wrote:
不知是不是免费提供下载的,如果是,能否提供个下载地址!

  
ptc的用户可以下载
作者: kqihui    时间: 2005-5-29 13:55
哈哈,好啊
作者: 偶遇    时间: 2005-5-29 14:19
也太快了吧,现在用2001的还好多呢!
作者: Z_XIUQI    时间: 2005-5-29 14:27

是吗?
作者: gwha1    时间: 2005-5-29 15:39
请下载了的兄弟给个种子到ftp.laogu.com好了,也太快了!
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 15:43
刚装完 感觉不错 表面看变化不大
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 15:44
启动画面
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 15:44
版本
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 15:49
界面与野火2差不多
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 15:50
发现的第一个不同 草绘中增加了一个放置截面的功能
作者: cf118    时间: 2005-5-29 16:01
ding
作者: djYang    时间: 2005-5-29 16:16
顶一下!
请楼主继续发表新发现!
作者: py134    时间: 2005-5-29 16:29
我顶!
作者: 润无痕    时间: 2005-5-29 16:31
破衣我的最爱,顶你一万年.
作者: 19760202    时间: 2005-5-29 16:43
good!!!!!
作者: fuck005    时间: 2005-5-29 16:43
希望有更多新发现.
看看曲面功能有没有改进.
作者: heshanlxp    时间: 2005-5-29 16:53
3.0??
真想先睹为快。
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 17:12
找到几个图片 先睹为快
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作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 17:15
9 就是开始发现的
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 17:16
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作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-29 17:17
11 暂时这么多
作者: djYang    时间: 2005-5-29 17:53
zk119 wrote:
8

工程视图可以像sw一样上色了,不错!
作者: yyy.wx    时间: 2005-5-29 18:29
好消息
作者: pengliangfeng    时间: 2005-5-29 18:37
关注中...
作者: pingtangcdm    时间: 2005-5-29 18:38
有没有地方下载软件!!!!!!
谁有种子,贡献一下!!!!
作者: colee    时间: 2005-5-29 18:39
草绘太差劲了
作者: kqihui    时间: 2005-5-29 18:45
好东西,又有很多改进的地方
作者: sunway_shencn    时间: 2005-5-29 18:50
我对野火版好兴趣!可恶的野火版!
作者: yoyo88    时间: 2005-5-29 19:34
这么快又变动
把我给搞晕了
作者: qslgcb008    时间: 2005-5-29 20:18
hao
作者: 麦客xwg    时间: 2005-5-29 20:24
期待
作者: 峪川    时间: 2005-5-29 20:24
有没有在曲面方面增强啊???
作者: meomoem    时间: 2005-5-29 21:04
还是2001好呀,1.0都没用,就出3.0了,哎
作者: kqihui    时间: 2005-5-29 21:21
楼主把下载地址发出来啊,让大家都体验一下
作者: freeboy    时间: 2005-5-29 21:42
顶!!!!
好想尝鲜的.
作者: rwc    时间: 2005-5-29 22:41
太好了,功能增强多吗?
作者: mick    时间: 2005-5-29 23:16
期待WF3.0早日安装在大家的电脑里以便共同研究.
作者: punk_lh    时间: 2005-5-30 00:07
晕……我还在2001和野火1上挣扎。
作者: 老杜    时间: 2005-5-30 07:19
看起来是不错,等待更多的新东西发现
看来3.0应该是PTC的最终目标了
2.0不过是一个过渡期而已
作者: 学学    时间: 2005-5-30 07:33
期待中~
作者: fuck005    时间: 2005-5-30 07:43
扫描混和改了哪?
作者: fuck005    时间: 2005-5-30 07:44
好强啊工程图比UG进了一大步.
作者: xiamen_guo    时间: 2005-5-30 08:06
天啊!!!!!!!!更新怎么快,2.0的都还没学会呢!你ptc.
作者: xoyoflysky    时间: 2005-5-30 08:09
更新的太快了,我还在学080呀,120出来还没有去下载就有3。0了,这样的步伐什么时候才能停止啊!
作者: shcityone    时间: 2005-5-30 08:11
顶啊,那里可以下载啊!
作者: ltflshi    时间: 2005-5-30 08:23
ding
作者: 偶遇    时间: 2005-5-30 08:29
楼主,在哪里下载的,我搜索了都找不到.
作者: hcgou    时间: 2005-5-30 20:01
楼主,做个bt种子,共享一下.
作者: daninchinaren    时间: 2005-5-30 20:31
呵呵,太好啦,
PTC发的快,大家学习的步伐也要加快啊
作者: xiexiaoqin    时间: 2005-5-30 21:34
跟2。0很像
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-30 23:03
ProE的小版本没有什么大的改动
公司公布的补丁 M070到M080 不到600k  
就只是打了个补丁 却搞个新版本
大家不要太在意小版本 能用就行
作者: zk119    时间: 2005-5-30 23:05
重要申明:现在发行的是preproduction 大家看清楚
正式发行的版本可能还要到七月吧
作者: msri    时间: 2005-5-30 23:05
关注
作者: msri    时间: 2005-5-30 23:06
但愿对机器别有太高要求
作者: msri    时间: 2005-5-30 23:07
ptc的速度太快乐
作者: weimingwei    时间: 2005-5-31 08:05
刚用熟M100,又换?
作者: 痴心太平洋    时间: 2005-5-31 10:24
早点出来好呀...
作者: ganzs    时间: 2005-5-31 11:39
又有新的了!
作者: 易水    时间: 2005-5-31 11:57
2.0的帮助还没看完,3.0又来了......
作者: mark39    时间: 2005-5-31 12:52
兼容性怎么样,2.0能打开3.0的图吗?
  
好像1.0就打不开2.0的图
  
ptc参数化多,兼容性是个问题啊
作者: hsg1027    时间: 2005-5-31 13:40
看了前面的贴图,感觉ptc跟着别个屁股后面走!
作者: XIAOJIN_2000    时间: 2005-5-31 13:44
终于来了
希望能令人满意!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: zoujiang_0    时间: 2005-5-31 14:15
哈哈,好啊
作者: richie0020    时间: 2005-5-31 16:02
真的太快了
我的2.0才刚刚上手啊
作者: 无梦    时间: 2005-5-31 16:40
偶1.0都不会用
作者: liuwujun    时间: 2005-5-31 16:54
作为破衣帮的弟子当然高兴了,最期待的是刀路参数版面用多点图标来表示就更直观了
作者: jun0750    时间: 2005-5-31 17:16
这么快出~~3.0啦!!!比刘翔跑110米栏还要快啦!!!哈哈~~这次应该比以前好一点吧!!3.0 用这么久才出来啦!!
作者: haodoudou    时间: 2005-5-31 18:59
hehe
作者: udditxihc    时间: 2005-5-31 20:51
~~~3.0
2.0都没有装上~
为什么用野火的每个版本画草图都奇慢,现在都没有用上野火!
作者: Jingffei    时间: 2005-5-31 21:46
太快了吧
作者: ignoramus    时间: 2005-5-31 22:16
我希望可以像其他软件一样可以继承颜色选择!!!
作者: weicnc    时间: 2005-5-31 22:20
liuwujun wrote:
作为破衣帮的弟子当然高兴了,最期待的是刀路参数版面用多点图标来表示就更直观了

我希望NC加工有变化,用多点图标来表示,
作者: PROD    时间: 2005-6-1 08:49
shcityone wrote:
顶啊,那里可以下载啊!

这个地方可以下载 www.ptc.com
作者: lin518    时间: 2005-6-1 09:23
  
  这个地方可以下载 www.ptc.com  [/quote]
没找到
作者: lei88123    时间: 2005-6-1 09:28
lin518 wrote:
  
  这个地方可以下载 www.ptc.com  

  没找到 [/quote]
  

作者: yhsean    时间: 2005-6-1 12:13
要是能
     象UG        隐藏   和   反隐藏就好了
    以前的隐藏太麻烦   要是反隐藏的话在模型树里找半天
    即使2.0加了一个   HIDDEN  ITEM 图层,操作也得一个一个点
    
    总之,麻烦   要是模型特别复杂,那就更麻烦了
作者: yhsean    时间: 2005-6-1 13:21
3D Quick Print  
Quickly create drawing layouts and plot directly from the 3D environment.
3D Section Display in Drawings  
In Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0, drawing views can display 3D sections (zones) from models.
3D Set Datum Tags on Surfaces  
We've implemented a new option for displaying set datums in 3D. Users can now place ASME Y14.41 style set datum tags on surfaces.
Activate Layer  
Now you can set a layer to be active and all layer-able entities created from that point forward will automatically be added to that layer.
Additional Language Support for Pro/ENGINEER on Linux  
Responding to the growing demand from global Linux users, Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0 offers additional language support.
Align Angular Dimensions  
Angular and linear dimensions can now be aligned at the same time.
Annotation Feature and UDF Interaction  
Users can now add annotation features to UDFs. Users can choose to vary surface finish values, geometric tolerance values, or driven dimension tolerances.  
Annotation Features in UDFs  
You can select Annotation features for inclusion in user-defined features. Annotation features and Annotation Element parameters and some annotation values can also be marked as variable items in the feature definitions.
Attach Geometric Tolerances to Leader Elbows  
New placement options for geometric tolerance attachment have been added to support ISO and JIS standards.
Autodetection of a Windows Locale  
Pro/ENGINEER and PTC.Setup have been enhanced to detect the system default locale on Windows and attempt to run Pro/ENGINEER in that locale.
Automatic Annotation Display in Drawings  
Maximize the value of detailing your 3D models. When you create a drawing view of a model with 3D annotations, they are automatically shown when appropriate.
Automatic Clipped Dimensions  
We've added a new way to create clipped dimensions in Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0 and improved the ability to create small, acute, angular dimensions.
Chamfer Dimension Witness Lines  
Now when shown chamfer dimensions are repositioned, a witness line will automatically be created.
Component Interface Definition Enhancements  
Component Interfaces are now easier to define, easier to place in an assembly, and viewable in the Model Tree.
Component Placement Dashboard  
The Component Placement dashboard, drag handles, and feedback in the graphics window provide a faster, easier method to assemble components in Pro/ENGINEER assemblies.
Component Replace Enhancements  
All methods of replacing components in an assembly have been enhanced and combined into a single, easy-to-use dialog box.
  Consolidated Cut and the Both Sides Option  
The sheetmetal cut is consolidated with the solid Cut.
Copy and Paste in Assembly  
The Windows style copy and paste is now available in Assembly mode.
Create Snap Lines Offset 2D Entities  
Snap lines can now reference 2D draft entities in drawings.
Cross Section Analysis  
The Section Analysis tool has an option to automatically span the selection set with cross sections at a defined spacing for analysis.
Curved Patterns  
The Curve option on the Pattern dashboard allows you to create instances of a feature along a sketched curve.
Cut, Copy, and Paste in Sketcher  
Sketcher now uses the Microsoft cut, copy, and paste operations for consistency with Pro/ENGINEER.  
Data Sharing Dashboard  
The Data Sharing dashboard modernizes the user interface and consolidates the Merge, Cutout, and Inheritance features.  
Defining the text direction for annotations  
When placing annotations, users are presented with the default text direction. This can be changed using default angle selections or by entering an angle.
Dependant Copy Enhancements for Annotation Features  
When creating dependant copies of annotation features, the annotations included will also be dependant. Dependant behavior of annotations is limited to text input, text style, color, and parameters.  
Dependent 3D Cross Section Views  
By default, when a new view is created that is dependent upon a view using a 3D section, the dependent view's section will be linked to its parent's section setting.
Detailing 'On-Item' Note Position Enhancements  
Detailing has been enhanced enabling users to control the vertical and horizontal justification of On-Entity notes.
Difference Report support of 3D Drawings  
The Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0 difference report now includes the ability to analyze and determine the difference between two versions of the same part for Annotation Features, their Annotation Elements and Annotations.
Direct Manipulation of Lights  
The way that users interact with lights has been completely overhauled within Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0
Draft Analysis and Color Display  
Draft Analysis enhancements to color display provide three-colors with control over the transition between color regions.
Drawing Template Improvements  
Drawing templates now support 3D sections and combination states, and they provide better scaling options.
Enhancements to Asynchronous Datum Creation  
Datums created during other feature creation tools will be embedded into the feature. Users can embed datum axis, datum points, datum planes, and datum coordinate systems.
Enhancements to the Annotation Feature User Interface  
Enhancements to the annotation feature interface include having the ability to enter descriptions for the references selected, to replace references using the right mouse button, and to define the text direction of the annotations.
Entering Sketcher without a Clear Orientation Reference  
After you select a sketching plane, you can enter Sketcher mode even if no default orientation reference exists.
Exact Placement Updates  
We've improved Move Special and enabled symbol placement at exact coordinates in Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0.
Excluding Datum Curves from HLR Calculations  
You can exclude datum curves from hidden line removal calculations. This helps to improve performance in large drawings.
Export Drawing Tables as CSV Files  
We've added a new option during Save Table operations that allows Pro/ENGINEER drawing tables to be exported as CSV files.
Flip Arrows Command for Diameter and Radius Dimensions  
Diameter and Radius dimensions now each have a Flip Arrows style.
Full Mechanism Dragging Capabilities in Assembly Mode  
Mechanism's Drag dialog box is available in Assembly mode and allows full body dragging capabilities.
Fully Dependent Copied Features  
The fully dependent and associative type of copied feature offers significant flexibility by making the copied set of features dependent on the source in varying degrees.
Geometric Tolerance Display Options  
New dtl setup options have been created to enable users to ensure geometric tolerances can be created according to ISO and JIS standards
Highlight Sketcher Entity Improvements when Explaining Constraints  
Sketcher entity highlighting has been enhanced, improving awareness of a particular constraints defined geometry and references when a user has selected to explain a constraint.
Horizontal Text for Radius Dimensions  
Now radius dimensions with parallel extension lines can be shown with a horizontal text orientation.
ISO Tolerance Table Verification  
We've added a check to validate automatically assigned ISO dimension tolerance values.
Improved Chain & Surface UI  
Within feature tools, customers can define the chain of edges or set of surfaces for the feature. Customers now have a more streamlined dialog to define these references.  
Improved Copy, Paste and Paste Special Tools  
Copy and paste or paste special has been improved to include a number of workflow improvements including the concept of a clipboard to allow a repeated paste operation.  
Improved Dimensioning for Unfolded Views  
The allowed attachment references for dimensioning unfolded views has been expanded.
Improved ModelCHECK Support for 3D-Drawings  
New checks have been added to core ModelCHECK for Annotation Features to help companies validate and confirm these features are not left in a state of incompleteness.
Improved Ordinate Dimensioning  
You can now directly create ordinate dimensions, add dimensions to an existing ordinate dimension, and group or redefine the attachment of ordinate dimensions.
Improved Parameter Table Interaction for Restricted Parameters  
The parameters table has been enhanced to allow for auto-complete input, as well as, name filtering for all restricted parameters specified in an external parameter file.
Improved Sketcher Performance with Large Sections  
Sketcher performance has been drastically improved when dealing with large sections of more then 40 entities and when adding additional entities.  
Improved Undo/Redo View Orientation in Sketcher  
The undo/redo view orientation in sketcher has been improved, providing users with more control over sketcher commands and action sequences during an undo/redo operation.
Improved Usability of the ModelCHECK Configurator  
The ModelCHECK Configurator, introduced in the previous release to make it easy to create, find, and edit ModelCHECK files to meet company standards and best practices, has been enhanced in Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0.
JIS Ordinate Baselines  
Ordinate baselines have been improved to better support JIS standard.
JIS Thread Display in Drawings  
We've improved the display of thread features in drawings to better support JIS standards.
Light Weld Feature Enhancements  
Several enhancements to the Light Weld feature improve performance and use of light welds.
Lightweight Preview for Warp Features  
With the Facet Preview option, you can easily preview Warp features for large datasets.
Locked Dimensions in Sketcher  
Locked dimensions in a sketch remain locked after completing the sketch in Sketcher and throughout the design of a model.
Materials Capabilities Improved  
Materials capabilities have been dramatically improved with a new Materials dialog box for defining materials and a completely overhauled library.
Measure User Interface  
The Measure user interface now conforms to the Pro/ENGINEER user model.
Mechanism Body Folder in Assembly Mode  
View the mechanism body definition of an assembly in the new split Model Tree within Assembly mode.
Minimize Overlap of Copied Annotations  
The position of annotation elements during copy/paste special, group pattern, or UDF placement operations has been adjusted to minimize overlap.
Mirror Command Enhancements for Subassemblies  
Components and assemblies can now be mirrored independently of the assembly of origin.
ModelCHECK Toolkit Provides for Custom Checks  
With ModelCHECK you can now develop your own custom checks.
  Multiple Walls Using the Flange Tool  
The Flange tool can create multiple walls when you select multiple, nontangent edges.
New Display Options for Per Unit Tolerances  
We've added several new display options for flatness geometric tolerances.
New Envelope Manager  
The redesigned Envelope Manager is easier to use.
New Sketcher Palette  
With the new Sketcher palette, you can capture common shapes and sections for reuse in future sketches without having to recreate them.
  New Unattached Extruded Wall User Interface  
The Unattached Extruded wall feature has been consolidated with the Core Extrude feature into a new user interface.
  New Unattached Flat Wall User Interface  
The Unattached Flat Wall feature has a new dashboard interface.
On Item Text Placement Improvements  
We've added functionality to help users align text that is placed using the ''On Item'' placement type.
Orientation and Projection of Fill Pattern Members  
The enhancements to Fill Patterns offer the ability to project and orient fill pattern members onto surfaces.
Parameter Enhancements  
With enhancements to parameters, you can quickly and easily complete such operations as converting units of parameters.
Parametric Draft Fillets and Chamfers  
Improved sketching in drawings includes the ability to create draft fillets and chamfers that are parametric to model edges.
Part Simplified Representations in Drawings  
In response to an overwhelming number of enhancement requests, we've added support for part simplified reps in drawing views.
Partial Shells  
The Shell tool can now exclude surfaces when you hollow out a solid to create a partial shell.
Pattern Tool Enhancements  
The Pattern tool offers significant enhancements, including the preview of patterns, roll back of features, and many other additions.
Placement of User-Defined Features  
The User-Defined Feature (UFD) tool streamlines workflow, offering increased flexibility and capabilities for placement of UFDs in a modern user interface.
RMB Actions for Moving and Rotating Annotations  
Users can now easily move and rotate the text direction of annotation after selecting the annotation element from the model tree.  
Real-Time Collision Detection in Assembly Mode  
Real-time collision detection is now available in Assembly mode using dragging operations.
Reduced File Size of Merged Drawings  
An internal process reduces the size of the final drawing when two drawings are merged.  
Rendering Scene File  
Rendering Scene files have been added to Wildfire 3.0 allowing users to save the render room, lighting and environment settings to a single file.  
Restricted Parameter Names and Values  
By specifying an external file, you can define restricted parameter names and values. When adding these parameters using the Parameters Dialog, you are required to select from a list of values or to define a value within a specified range.  
Separate Layer Dialog  
Customers can now set a config.pro option to allow a floating layer dialog. This has been reintroduced back into Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0 as one of the top enhancement requests.  
Set Datum Attachment to Gtols  
Enable attachment of set datum tags to geometric tolerances in models and drawings.
Set Up of Sketching Planes and Orientation References in Sketcher  
With the improved creation and modification workflow for Sketcher, you can directly modify the setup of a sketch and orientation references.
Shaded Views in Drawings  
You can now include shaded views of models in drawings. This capability improves plotting drawings with OLE objects and shaded views.
  Sheetmetal Reports  
The Sheetmetal Info reports are consolidated within the Model Info report.
Show Frozen Components in Assembly Model Tree  
This enhancement will change the model tree icon so that a user can quickly inspect the model tree to determine what components are currently frozen
Simultaneous Retrieval of Components and Graphics  
Pro/ENGINEER now displays the graphics of each component in the graphics window during retrieval of the assembly.  
Sketched Text Positions  
Sketcher has been enhanced for control of the vertical and horizontal justification of sketched text.
Slot Connections in Assembly Mode  
Mechanism slot connections can now be defined as an Assembly connection.
Specifying Joint Axis Limits during Component Placement  
You can now set joint axis settings when you are defining component placement, making it easier and simpler to limit the motion of components within Assembly mode.
Streamlined Board Import and Export  
Side menus for the import and export of ECAD data have been consolidated into a single dialog box.
  Streamlined Creation of ECAD Areas  
An ECAD Area dialog box for the creation of ECAD areas consolidates the previous side menus.
Support for Flexible Components in Kinematic Assemblies  
Pro/ENGINEER Assemblies with packaged components can now be kinematically dragged in real time with flexible components, such as springs and pipes, that fully constrain the assembly.  
Support of OpenType Fonts  
With Universal Font Scaling Technology 4.7, you can use and place OpenType Fonts for multi-language support in all areas, including Sketcher and drawings.  
Swept Blend Dashboard  
The new Swept Blend tool uses a smooth-flow workflow with a dashboard user interface.
Undo and Redo Support for Assembly Operations  
Undo and Redo are now available in Assembly mode for all of the general assembly operations and commands.
  Updated Default Setting for Importing Holes  
The default value for the configuration option ecad_import_holes_as_features has been changed from NO to YES.  
Updates to Surface Finish Annotations  
Now it is possible to collect surface finish reference surfaces separately from the symbol attachment reference in 3D. We've also enabled advanced selection for surface finish annotation elements in annotation features.
View Manager States for Drawing Views  
You can reuse all states created in 3D models to help configure drawing views.
作者: yhsean    时间: 2005-6-1 13:24
https://www.ptc.com/appserver/wcms/relnotes/category.jsp?version=3198&type=867
作者: kevin tian    时间: 2005-6-1 14:45
那么NB,我还在用2001,太落后了
作者: Cydi    时间: 2005-6-1 15:35
看来要赶快挣银子了
作者: PROD    时间: 2005-6-1 16:54
终于有此功能了,这种常用的功能即将实现。
作者: DAIYHONG123    时间: 2005-6-1 20:16
靠,我还在用2001
作者: cheng_wik    时间: 2005-6-1 21:13
靠!其他用pro/e的兄弟怎么这么落后,还用2001?我们厂早用2.0了.2.0比2001好用多了,也其望3.0也有所加强
作者: ckw888    时间: 2005-6-2 07:38
我还在用2001
作者: ^_^    时间: 2005-6-2 08:13
cheng_wik wrote:
靠!其他用pro/e的兄弟怎么这么落后,还用2001?我们厂早用2.0了.2.0比2001好用多了,也其望3.0也有所加强

  
上来礼貌点
  
用2001的都是些老手了,没时间来学习WF
毕竟操作不习惯,很多命令找不到,这个我很清楚,当时我从2001过渡到2.0的时候也是痛苦了一个礼拜,还看了很长时间的帮助文件~!
也是公司逼的,正式版刚发布公司就升级了,也是没办法才用2.0的,用一年多了
作者: cather6h8231    时间: 2005-6-2 08:35
來支持一下哦!
等待正式版出現了哦!
作者: 珍珍    时间: 2005-6-2 18:57
不知能不能挑战NX4。0
作者: designer1975    时间: 2005-6-2 19:08
野火,好啊




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